Pluto Retrograde and the 2008 Echoes — The Pleiadians

Transcribed Excerpt from the Autumnal Equinox Transmission of September 21, 2023

Nora Herold
6 min readOct 6, 2023

One of the things that’s coming up for you all right now that’s really having an effect, it’s really impacting your personal experience and your collective experience, is your relationship with Pluto, and the information that Pluto gives you all, how Pluto operates for you all as a system of support, how Pluto also operates for you all in a guiding capacity and in a co-creative capacity. This is how we want you to perceive your interactions with the planets, the stars, all of the celestial bodies. These are beings that exist in your universe that you are collaborating with, that you are collectively creating with, that often can operate for you all as we do in giving information, guidance, highlighting certain things for you so you place your attention on it. There’s a constant relationship ongoing here.

One of the things that we’re noticing as Pluto right now is sitting retrograde in Capricorn, you’ve been experiencing Pluto in retrograde since the beginning of May but it moved back into Capricorn on June 11 th, and one of the things that you’re recalling right now as Pluto is retrograde in Capricorn, one of the things you’re recalling in yourselves, in your bodies, in your memories, and perhaps your personal experience, is the period of time when Pluto last went into Capricorn for the first time, and that was January of 2008. So if you think back to January of 2008 and then what occurred over the next year or two globally, you entered a period of time that felt extremely unstable to a lot of you, especially where your personal financial reality was concerned. That was the beginning of what you were calling, what you all call “the great recession” or “the crash”, when the housing market in the US, and then elsewhere, kind of imploded, and banks were failing and big businesses were failing, and the energy of Pluto in Capricorn supported the rescuing of these large institutions, which is why in part, that’s what you saw. You saw banks getting bailed out. You saw investment firms getting bailed out. You saw those at the top, basically, who were supposedly holding your reality in place, because of the bigness of them, right, “too big to fail”, you saw that rescuing occurring, and Pluto in Capricorn absolutely supported that.

This is the energy of Pluto moving into Capricorn, “We’re going to take care of these big structures.”

So what’s happening right now is a bit of a callback to that moment where you’re noticing the bigger structures still seem to be getting welfare. That’s from our perspective as we look at it, when you look at subsidies and money and all that goes to the bigger structures, this is of a version of welfare, corporate welfare. And it seems that the individual, each of you is being left behind, just as you experienced this at the beginning of 2008, all throughout 2008, 2009, coming into 2010. The bigger structures took precedence and the individual, those most vulnerable experienced protracted suffering, loss of resources, and this is a wound that has not healed.

So as Pluto right now is back in Capricorn and retrograde, you’re remembering that period of time. Part of the experience of remembering it is perhaps finding yourself, not in the same exact place that you were back then because you’re not back then. You’re here, and you’ve all progressed. But you’re finding yourself perhaps in an echo of that experience. So, if you think about the energy and how it fans out, it’s not as intense, it’s not as severe, your fears are not as activated, and your personal reality is probably not as dramatically affected and yet, there are echoes of that occurring for each of you in your life right now, and you may really want to look back on that period of time if you can’t recall directly right now, what your experience was like, but a lot of you probably can because it was very dramatic on your world, very dramatic that period of time.

You might want to look back and say, “Oh yes, that’s right, That’s what I was thinking. That’s what I was feeling, and these are the choices I made based on some of what I was feeling and thinking.”

Now we’re talking about this because, in part, Pluto is about to go direct in Capricorn. This is going to happen on October 11th. So as Pluto goes direct, you’re going to start to shake, you’re going to shake a lot of this off, the echoes. You’re going to look at it and say, “Okay, how can I best use this last period of time of Pluto being in Capricorn?” because it’s going to move into Aquarius in January of 2024. So it’ll be in Capricorn through the end of the year, but no longer in retrograde and you’re going to start to feel more forward movement, and you’re really going to look at for yourself where your beliefs lie when it comes to your physical reality, your structures, money, all of it, as well as what you value, what you don’t, and this dovetails, really, with the work you did, while Venus was in retrograde. What you love, what you don’t, what you value, what you don’t, they’re pretty much the same. So you are doing this now with Pluto’s assistance and you may find yourself starting to make some changes, starting to feel more momentum.

A lot of you have felt very tired, kind of low energy, sluggish right now. Part of this is due to the intensity of some of the solar activity you’ve been experiencing. Part of it is just that summer has ended, you’re heading into a new season. The light is changing, as it goes from full sun to less sun on your body. We’re talking to those of you in the northern hemisphere. So wherever you are on the world, you’re having your own experience of this, maybe it’s a little opposite, maybe if you’re heading into what you know to be your springtime, you’re starting to feel a bit more energy, but most of you tuning in today are here in the northern hemisphere as Nora is. So you’re experiencing that tiredness, but anytime there’s a big change you will feel some tiredness.

So as you head into mid-October, you’ve got these big events of Pluto going direct on October 11th. You’ve got an eclipse on the 14th, and you’ve got another eclipse then on the 28th. So three big events. So we see the opportunity in October for fast, big movement, and a lot of excitement for you all. So we don’t say fast big movement to trigger fear. We can feel some of you saying “Uhoh,” because that has been at times your experience. So we want to be clear, we’re not saying that. We’re saying fast big movement. Some of these things will be fantastic for you all personally, some of them collectively. You may look at them and say “Huh, I can see where some suffering is still happening here. How am I interacting with that? How can I be of more service? How can I be more of service to myself or service to the collective?” That’s kind of the shift that we see ahead for you all. And it’s partly why Jon, in fact, was talking about this spontaneous kind of sudden uptick in social activity. That’s, that’s a little bit of a preview, he was sharing there without really realizing that’s what he was sharing about, about how the energy is going to change potentially for you all where you’re going to start to come out of this, kind of cocoon-like state into a more active period of time, which is a little bit contrary to the period of time of the Autumnal Equinox through the Winter Solstice, where the light is receding, And yet, if you are feeling inspired and active and excited, take it, take that energy and run with it.

Full video recording of this transmission available here

Originally published at https://noraherold.substack.com.

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Nora Herold

Pleiadian channel, reiki master, incarnate guide, faerie, feminist, progressive, dog and cat mom, finding the funny in as much as I can. noraherold.com